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== OME and DME formula ==
  
 
The formula currently shows all the bonuses combining multiplicatively. However, with my own province, I am not seeing this to be the case. I'm not Orc, so I can't speak to Fanaticism, but the bonuses from honor and TG's are combining ADDITIVELY on my province.
 
The formula currently shows all the bonuses combining multiplicatively. However, with my own province, I am not seeing this to be the case. I'm not Orc, so I can't speak to Fanaticism, but the bonuses from honor and TG's are combining ADDITIVELY on my province.
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Also, the DME formula I'm seeing with my own province looks like this:
 
Also, the DME formula I'm seeing with my own province looks like this:
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DME = (raw DME + FT bonus) * MP bonus
 
DME = (raw DME + FT bonus) * MP bonus
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DME = (93.6% + 1.8%) * 1.05 = 100.2%
 
DME = (93.6% + 1.8%) * 1.05 = 100.2%
  
 
My guess is that building and honor bonuses are combined additively, and that plague and spell bonuses are combined multiplicatively.
 
My guess is that building and honor bonuses are combined additively, and that plague and spell bonuses are combined multiplicatively.
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--[[User:Bowman|Bowman]] 20:26, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
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Im at 150% wages which gives me 104.3 ME and IM in fortified atm (Im also baron) so from what I have noticed my off ME is counted like this:
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OME = ROUNDDOWN((104.3+4)*0,85;1)=92%
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Im sitting in another prov which is on 200% wages (107.6% ME) also fortified (:D) + lord title:
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OME=ROUNDDOWN((107.6+2)*0,85;1)=93,1%
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MY bro account (100% wages; baron; fortified):
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OME=ROUNDDOWN((100+4)*0,85;1)=88.4%
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I cant test Fanaticism too and I dont have TG's atm....
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Mine (baron; 150% wages; fortified; 14.71% from Forts (on 111.2%BE; 9.8%)):
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DME=ROUNDDOWN((104.3+14.71)*1.1*1.05;1)=137.4%  (looks like it is not effected by honor bonus anymore!!!!!)
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Sit in account (200% wages; lord; fortified; Forts gives 12.77% (103.4% BE; 9.1% of forts)):
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DME=ROUNDDOWN((107.6+12.77)*1.1*1.05;1)=139%
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My bro's account (100% wages; baron; fortified; 14,86% from forts(on BE 110,4%; 10%)):
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DME=ROUNDDOWN((100+14,86)*1.1*1.05;1)=132,6%  thats how I get it, but his military page shows 132.7% so I don't exactly how it suppose to be with rounding...
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--[[User:SL1mas|SL1mas]] 23:21, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks, SL1mas. Looks like bonuses from HONOR and BUILDINGS are additive, while bonuses from STANCE and SPELLS are multiplicative.
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Still don't know about monarchy DME bonus. My guess is that it is also multiplicative. Can anyone confirm this?
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--[[User:Bowman|Bowman]] 05:01, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
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Gains formula:
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Gains = Target Resource * Attack Type * PNF * KNF * GBP * GS * Race * Stance * Relations * Science
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when PNF = 0 I'm still seeing gains.

Latest revision as of 16:16, 10 May 2011


OME and DME formula

The formula currently shows all the bonuses combining multiplicatively. However, with my own province, I am not seeing this to be the case. I'm not Orc, so I can't speak to Fanaticism, but the bonuses from honor and TG's are combining ADDITIVELY on my province.

Can anyone else confirm this? If so, we need to change the formula to reflect this.

Also, the DME formula I'm seeing with my own province looks like this:

DME = (raw DME + FT bonus) * MP bonus

DME = (93.6% + 1.8%) * 1.05 = 100.2%

My guess is that building and honor bonuses are combined additively, and that plague and spell bonuses are combined multiplicatively.

--Bowman 20:26, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

-=*OME*=-

Im at 150% wages which gives me 104.3 ME and IM in fortified atm (Im also baron) so from what I have noticed my off ME is counted like this: OME = ROUNDDOWN((104.3+4)*0,85;1)=92%

Im sitting in another prov which is on 200% wages (107.6% ME) also fortified (:D) + lord title: OME=ROUNDDOWN((107.6+2)*0,85;1)=93,1%


MY bro account (100% wages; baron; fortified): OME=ROUNDDOWN((100+4)*0,85;1)=88.4%

I cant test Fanaticism too and I dont have TG's atm....

-=*DME*=-

Mine (baron; 150% wages; fortified; 14.71% from Forts (on 111.2%BE; 9.8%)): DME=ROUNDDOWN((104.3+14.71)*1.1*1.05;1)=137.4% (looks like it is not effected by honor bonus anymore!!!!!)

Sit in account (200% wages; lord; fortified; Forts gives 12.77% (103.4% BE; 9.1% of forts)): DME=ROUNDDOWN((107.6+12.77)*1.1*1.05;1)=139%

My bro's account (100% wages; baron; fortified; 14,86% from forts(on BE 110,4%; 10%)): DME=ROUNDDOWN((100+14,86)*1.1*1.05;1)=132,6% thats how I get it, but his military page shows 132.7% so I don't exactly how it suppose to be with rounding...

--SL1mas 23:21, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, SL1mas. Looks like bonuses from HONOR and BUILDINGS are additive, while bonuses from STANCE and SPELLS are multiplicative.

Still don't know about monarchy DME bonus. My guess is that it is also multiplicative. Can anyone confirm this?

--Bowman 05:01, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Gains formula:

Gains = Target Resource * Attack Type * PNF * KNF * GBP * GS * Race * Stance * Relations * Science

when PNF = 0 I'm still seeing gains.